Should Gay Couples be Able to Marry?
That’s a stupid question. Why are men and women able to marry? This institution of marriage was developed by a society that would be considered openly racist, sexist bigots by today’s standards. The fact that we have to even debate this question shows a definite disconnect between today’s society at large and the other end of the brain stem.
When you create an officially sanctioned institution such as marriage and not just control the rules of it but have the rules permanently restrict people from ever qualifying for it based on sexual orientation, then you are discriminating. Sorry, some people won’t do what you tell them no matter how loud you bark, but then again why should they, who are you (society)? Why do you think you have the right to impose your will upon them?
I understand if homophobic, heterosexuals are so insecure about their ‘marriage’ status that they feel it automatically renders them ‘not gay’ and that we have a definition of ‘marriage’ that requires a consenting female and male couple. I am OK with this. Let’s call it something else that means ‘marriage’ but it’s not called marriage like ‘partnership’ or whatever, whatever can be agreed upon and put forth as a title.
I am sure we could even still get away with a name that is not even politically correct, one that screams ‘I am gay’, you know, I meet you and I say “hey Jim!, long time no see, Jim meet Tom, Tom meet Jim, Jim and I are partners.” This way the aforementioned people can still live in their “I am automatically not gay dimension” and everyone is happy.
So why bother at all? Why we have to ‘bother’ about this is because all you stupid legislators have gone and attached benefits, tax credits and incentives to the ‘marriage’ status with public funds thus making it of public concern which actually includes all the public not just the ‘marriage status’ folks.
Saying gays can’t ‘partner’ is like saying in a job advert “black people don’t even apply for this high paying job because you are black!” Now, some of you know that even though it’s not said (it’s not cool to say that), it’s what happens (real word dimension) but for some difficult-to-understand, brain-stem disconnect logic we can say that out loud in regard to gays and marriage.
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June 9th, 2012 at 11:49 am
Hot Topic, you seem angry about it. people can choose their own sexual orientation and their partners, marriage means uniting a male and female and is a religious concept.
Words don’t make marriage its a covenant between two people
the joining of the flesh is a intimate part and is between people of opposite sexes, everything else is according to the bible is
an abomination, but we have free will and society can make all
kinds of rules, but that won’t make it right. I hate how when people want to be accepted they feel everyone is homophobic
that doesn’t agree with them, I have in my lifetime many friends that are homosexual, I love them as people and some of them have helped me through some hard days, I accept them but not their sexual orientation.
June 9th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Another topic of controversy, in my opinion, homosexuality and lesbianism is wrong, period, God put men and women on this Earth to be together in that way, to hopefully get married, have children and raise a family.
There is so much wrong in this society of today, and I for one am against these gay marriages, they say they are being discriminated against? What about the discrimination against God by living your life in this way, it’s immoral.
Gay also used to be a nice word, “Look at those gay flowers over there”, nobody says that anymore, the word has been ruined and taken away by these immoral individuals.
Good share, thank you for this.
June 9th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
just one word, why they shouldn’t? They aint an alien species living on this planet lol, no different from humans. and if you think at a way that its strange that 2 different kinds are together with each other, instead 2 of the same.
June 9th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Lauralu: See you quote the bible, because that’s what you like, that’s what you agree with. Some people don’t agree with it and you say ‘they’ are wrong and ‘they’ say you are wrong.
I say you are both wrong because every one has their beliefs which you should respect. There is a big lack of respect here. You state yourself how you dislike techniques used by others towards people that don’t agree with them. Your technique is to quote the bible and call it an abomination. Same Same.
Marriage is an institution based on property not religion. Religion hijacked it later. My beef is when you start dolloping out the tax incentives, tax breaks and privileges because of the marriage status and at the same time prevent a group of tax paying public people from having access to that same tax breaks and benefits (spousal retirements) which their tax dollars are paying for.
Listen, I know you probably don’t realize how one of your statements comes across, but, I am going to pick on it anyhow, sorry. “I love them as people” … that’s what I say about my dog. Gays are people. Cripes, I might as well say, that’s mighty white of you.
June 9th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Chris: God doesn’t pay taxes, not even here on earth.
June 9th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
Paul: I am aware of that, God does not pay taxes here you are right.
God Provides us with Life and all that is around us.
What these people do is discriminating and wrong.
However we are created, we are here, I am sure that God Uses Resources to give us Life, how do you think God Feels about these people wasting their lives in the way that they do, having rights to Marriage and adopting children?
So if we are wasting money here, because of stupid Laws being put into place, then God wasted His Resources giving those people a life in the first instance.
June 9th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Well, you choae a very controversial topic, personally, I don’t care if people of the same sex get married, people of different races get married, and I don’t even care if inter-species get married. “To each his own”. As far as I am concerned, religion has nothing to do with marriage….
The point about the tax breaks is well made, there should be no difference in taxes based on wether people are married or not….
Very well played hand here h20ho, Great article, your writing genius is beginning to show…
June 9th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Dear friend i love all people as people, even you God love you
and you are sincere but sincerely wrong.
June 9th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
How do you think God feels about you feeling they are wasting their lives, he gave it to them and you, in your earthly ways, are questioning his wisdom.
I see his wisdom and I don’t question it. I will never know what whatever god there is thinks. I am not meant to.
June 9th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
@ lauralu why should he be sincerely wrong,
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what are your arguments?
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Because what you said at your first reaction, is not even looked at it objective to be honest…
Ill qoute one off your lines:
“people can choose their own sexual orientation and their partners, marriage means uniting a male and female and is a religious concept.”
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1) First of all, if you could choose your sexual orientation, we wouldn’t have this problem. And also, I dare you to like a girl? I doubt ur able to are you?
2) Second of all, marriage WAS a religious concept, here in Holland (The Netherlands), it’s forbidden to mix laws with religion, so the laws which are made here, (for married people) do count to everyone! because if you wouldn’t it would go against the system which has been set up to avoid mixture of goverment- religion and law. With other words, if it wouldn’t count for everyone it would be like forbid fat people to marry or choose between races who are able to marry. People here marry mainly for the the Tax fact, you pay less taxes being married and other advantages like renting a home and so on. Why would you disallow “Fat” people from renting homes for a cheaper price? While other are allowed? Cuz they aint “correct”?
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I have to say, I (and many from my generation) do not stand at all behind marriage (whether straight or gay) and aren’t planning to do so any time soon.
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There is no reason not to accept, unless it would hurt you personally, otherwise you are hurting others by not accepting (Which is also forbidden if I’m correct).
June 9th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
My view is that gay marriage harms no-one so there should be no problem with it. Unfortunately, as the comments on this article prove, those who believe in a bearded old man up there on a cloud get rather uppity about the subject. Here in the UK we compromised by having legal same-sex civil partnerships which are marriages in all but name but since they don’t claim the ‘m’ word those who get their knickers in a twist about the so-called sanctity of marriage are at least partly pacified.
June 9th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Paul: If you say you are not meant to see God one day, then you must be questioning yourself as a person? Surely if we are all here to learn how to be good people, and then in our next life have a good life in Heaven, you must have doubts about yourself?
As far as I am concerned, what if we were all homosexual or lesbian? There would no be future, how can people have children, if people were not willing to be with a woman, if that person was a man, or be with a man, if that person was a woman?
I can’t see how God can Live on a cloud, it’s physically impossible.
June 10th, 2012 at 1:20 am
well… i don’t believe in such ridiculus relations as gay or whatever… every thing , which pricks our mind is definitely a thorn, is wrong…….to keep the society calm and balanced, we should keep in mind all the social norm… cox we are humans not animals that can do whatever to fulfill their desire.. there is an idea of good and bad, evil and virtue, so we should follows the rules. and tru to live as human not as animals.
June 10th, 2012 at 1:47 am
Good and bad are human concepts. Does a lion who eats the gazelle think what he is doing is good or bad or does he just do it?
Rules are made for good and for control but they should be made just for good. Rules change because of humans and should not be the other way.
June 10th, 2012 at 1:55 am
If humans were all gay, we would mutate and accommodate genetically to overcome restrictions and become asexual like many other animals currently are in the animal kingdom, or perhaps have the ability to change to asexual.
We see what we want to see and what we are exposed too. Wanting God to exist does not make it so, wanting to meet God does not mean you will meet God.
If God told you to kill everyone, would you question it? I would.
June 10th, 2012 at 7:45 am
umm they should not.I hate this relation
June 10th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
I like it, very important topic
June 10th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
Why do we say Animal Kingdom, but we do not say Human Kingdom or Human Being Kingdom? I am not being derogatory towards animals, I love them all.
We do not alway see what we want to see, sometimes we see occurrences that we do not wish to see, sometimes we have that choice, sometimes we do not.
I want to meet a new partner possibly, she does exist, somewhere in this World, I might meet her I might not. I want her to exist and she does, there are women I find attractive, so they do exist, so to me, that’s belief, if you do not believe in your possible destiny then why do we function everyday as we do?
To not believe is giving up, you might as well call it a day and not bother. In my opinion wanting God to Exist does make it so, there has to be a good reason for God to have been mentioned in this World in the first instance, why would some of us talk about God if He does Exist, and others do not?
That is absolute and resounding proof as far as I am concerned that God Exists in my opinion.
If God Told me to kill everyone who was bad, I would, because He is my God and I would do as God Tells me to do, because I believe in God and I would not question His Decision.
June 10th, 2012 at 11:00 pm
Incredible, the topic of gay marriage turned into a topic of religion…. and that is why we have the issues around gay marriage, religion clouds logical judgement, and perhaps h20ho, you are onto something… perhaps, one day, humans will evolve into beings that can procreate within themselves and maybe homosexuality is the beginniing process of that evolution…
June 11th, 2012 at 6:31 am
I’ve always said that whatever two do in their bedroom isn’t none of my business and as long as they don’t bother to others is fine. Good share!
June 11th, 2012 at 11:52 am
I think religion should stay in the bedroom too!
June 11th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
I have to put my six peneth in and know some cool people who seem to come under the title Gay, my beleif is we all need love and the closeness of someone in life so live and let live, and too those who think it is against some higher law well i have news for you, the highest statment was love as you would be loved, care as you would want to be cared for, and treat as you would want top be treated.A-Men to that.
June 12th, 2012 at 12:15 am
This topic is a difficult one. I think if we all stood back and took a ‘God’ view of the situation and took away the ‘gay’ status of it, what we would find is that we have difficultly with things that are not like us.
What will we do when we or are discovered by ETs. Will we kill them? Will they kill us?